Harris vs Batman

07/06/11

Labour MP Tom Harris doesn’t like Dundee’s new degree in Comic Studies.

Okay, this is going to be a brief post because I’m a bit busy, and I’m going to set out two things you should probably know pretty baldly.

1. Tom Harris and I seem to disagree about everything.

It began when I made some unkind references to Tony Blair and the War on Terror and the War In Iraq and the frankly shameful business of the dodgy dossier, the 45 minute claim, and the UK’s increasingly obvious complicity in torture around the world. It has not greatly changed course since then.

2. I like comics. I did, in fact, study comics a bit at a university.

So I am either biased or in a position to know the benefits of studying comics, take your pick. Incidentally, the course in question was “Aspects of American Culture”, which introduced me to Robert Warshow‘s writing (on movies, anti-communism on the left, McCarthyism, and, yes, comics), which in turn influenced my thinking in The Gone-Away World and Angelmaker and in general enriches my life. The course was part of a Media, Culture, and Ideology paper, the degree was Social and Political Science, the other components of my path through it being Revolutions, Russian 20th Century History, and Global Security. But of course, Mr Harris is right, it wasn’t a proper “university” (see below), it was just some dusty provincial flophouse for the academic dregs, so what do they know about academic or real-world value?

Okay, that off my chest, here goes:

I see absolutely no reason to dispute the value of a Master’s in Comic Studies. The debate about film schools is always thriving within the UK film industry – those who went generally feel it was hugely helpful and those who didn’t can’t understand how they could waste all that time. They have different skill sets and make different films, and that’s all to the good.

The comics industry is hard to break into and a little opaque; one of the functions of degree courses in media industries is to break through that kind of barrier, give people a sense not only of how they need to produce their work but how to get people to look at it, how the industry as a whole functions. In film, for example, it’s not uncommon to meet writers with a strong grip on demographics and studio economics. So a standard movie pitch might not only go:

It’s about this guy who discovers his wife is actually an alien bent on destroying the world, and he loves her so much he decides to help, but in the end she realises she loves him so much she can’t do it and they farm alpacas instead…

But also:

It fills the gap in your slate for the 18-34 urban demographic. If we make it for under £5m you’ll make the budget back on Brazilian rights alone.

I’ll leave discussion of teaching the techniques and necessities of comics writing and drawing etc to others, and move on…

The thing which finally triggered my decision to blog about the spat – and which remains relevant now that Tom Harris has changed his position a little – was this:

Right ho.

Here’s a few things a degree in Batman could teach you:

The conflicted nature of US self-perception relating to written law as against justice; one face of US foreign policy and its origins – and latterly, consequences; aspects of US copyright and IP law; history and consequences of the Great Depression; the myth of the ‘big break’, the lottery, and the notion of Hard Work; the interweaving of the US’ Puritan origins with capitalism and charity; the nature of the American relationship with the gun; the historical rise of Freudianism in US culture; issues of race and gender in the US…

And on and on and on. This is an icon, shaped by every major event in US history since its inception, handled by many writers, editors, artists. Batman isn’t just Bruce Wayne: he’s Uncle Sam on a bad day.

Seriously? I can understand if you don’t want to study that. But taking the idea as a standard of foolishness? No. That, I do not understand.

[John Freeman's piece on this is here. No doubt Mr Harris will respond. Round and round and round we go.]

6 Comments to “Harris vs Batman”

  • Camilla said on June 7th, 2011:

    Well put.

  • Ali said on June 7th, 2011:

    I went to the University of Southampton from 2001 till I graduated in 2004. I did Film Studies and English as a Combined Honours, and I can completely understand this crazy argument about what’s valid and what isn’t.

    Those who did straight English degrees thought we Film students just watched films all day, so they couldn’t wait to take the optional unit when offered in the second year. That was when they realized how much work there was, and how fascinating it was.

    But more importantly, we were always taught to be open about subject matter. Holocaust Literature included Maus by Art Spiegelman. Warren Ellis’s Transmetropolitan was in one of the other reading lists and sold at the once-a-week pop-up textbook stalls. Eventually Persepolis made it to the stalls as well. And I’m pretty sure when we did Film Noir we talked about The Spirit and old school Batman.

    I feel quite privileged to have gone to a university that offered me all these fantastic materials to think and discuss with. Anyone who thinks otherwise, well, I guess they’re losing out on a lot of cool things. :)

  • Camilla said on June 8th, 2011:

    I have to add another comment, because the more I think about this the angrier I get. Especially after that shockingly annoying debate style he displayed on Twitter (I am not terribly familiar with that part of the internet, but if this is what being restrained to 140 characters does to people I am happy to ignore it for the foreseeable future). Goodness gracious. It is like watching a 10-yearold waving their hand in front of someone’s face going “I’m not touching you; the air is for everyone”.

    More tot he point: how dare he?

    I originally assumed that this was based in some snotty idea of culture as only valuable if signed off by 200 years of wealthy people, but that seems to be at odds with the man claiming to be a fan of comics and dripping pop culture references all over the place (and sporting the TARDIS on his Twitter page, which somehow makes me even angrier). If he believe it holds no value, why is he wasting his time on it?

    The alternative [would seem to be] that he belongs to the dreadfully annoying [...] people who believe the humanities have no value because they cannot be reduced to hard cash, or that academics who study expressions of popular culture (that is not 100 years old already) are actually just whiling away their hours having fun at the expense of people who do “actual” work. I find myself getting incoherent. Damn him.

    He should be forced to read a few of the “worthless” PhDs. We could have fun watching his head explode.

    [Edited by NH - stepping a little carefully around libel law, just in case.]

  • Liz said on June 14th, 2011:

    Totally agree!!!

    here’s a link to an article I wrote about this:

    http://www.graduatetimes.com/notebook/

    hope you like it; always worry I’ve missed something out :s

  • Camilla said on June 15th, 2011:

    I suppose there is a lesson there, somewhere, in not being upset next to a computer.

  • Nick Harkaway said on June 15th, 2011:

    I think you were fine, actually. I just wanted to be very sure. It’s the season for idle litigation, after all…

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