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		<link>http://www.nickharkaway.com/2009/06/we-really-have-to-stop-doing-this/comment-page-1/#comment-1357</link>
		<dc:creator>Foz Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn governments and their short-term planning. You&#039;d think we&#039;d have more collective knowledge of human nature by now than to think that installing a rebel dictator against the will of the people or arming a tyrant because the enemy of our enemy is our temporary friend is a good idea, but evidently not.

I think W. H. Auden summed it up best in 1 September, 1939. He wrote:


I and the public know
What all school children learn:
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn governments and their short-term planning. You&#8217;d think we&#8217;d have more collective knowledge of human nature by now than to think that installing a rebel dictator against the will of the people or arming a tyrant because the enemy of our enemy is our temporary friend is a good idea, but evidently not.</p>
<p>I think W. H. Auden summed it up best in 1 September, 1939. He wrote:</p>
<p>I and the public know<br />
What all school children learn:<br />
Those to whom evil is done<br />
Do evil in return.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you&#039;re probably right. Governments have long had the resort position of, &quot;Look, sometimes difficult decisions have to be made...&quot;, which sounds pretty convincing until you realise most so-called &quot;difficult&quot; decisions are actually stupid ones. 

I&#039;ve often wondered if a statuatory element would be possible in foreign policy - legal restrictions on the diplomatic/military/trade relations we can have with different countries dependant upon how many, and which, of our criteria for a free state they fulfil. It probably wouldn&#039;t work, of course, but at least the statement that governments (and similarly corporations) can&#039;t arbitrarily apply or dismiss ethical concerns would be a nice one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;re probably right. Governments have long had the resort position of, &#8220;Look, sometimes difficult decisions have to be made&#8230;&#8221;, which sounds pretty convincing until you realise most so-called &#8220;difficult&#8221; decisions are actually stupid ones. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered if a statuatory element would be possible in foreign policy &#8211; legal restrictions on the diplomatic/military/trade relations we can have with different countries dependant upon how many, and which, of our criteria for a free state they fulfil. It probably wouldn&#8217;t work, of course, but at least the statement that governments (and similarly corporations) can&#8217;t arbitrarily apply or dismiss ethical concerns would be a nice one.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Harkaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s stupider than that, actually. I think it&#039;s habit. We just do these things and allow them because we&#039;re used to the world being a mess. No one can imagine saying &quot;no, no, this is unethical and a bit dumb - even if profitable/advantageous in the short term - so we won&#039;t do it.&quot; In some countries, there are actually laws which render executives vulnerable to legal action if they don&#039;t push the law to its limit to make profit. In other words, if you &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; try to find ways around child labour laws, you could get sued...

I&#039;m not a fan of legislating this kind of thing; people ought to do it anyway. However, we&#039;re into control-freaking our representatives at the moment, and there&#039;s not a lot of trust, so maybe we need a rule which says: &quot;Hey, idiot! Not sell munitions to bad guy in exchange for oil! Not outsource labour to child factory! No, no, NO! You do bad thing, you go to prison FOR EVER. Geddit?&quot;

Revolting though it is to imagine that we need to legislate to prevent our governments from behaving like monsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s stupider than that, actually. I think it&#8217;s habit. We just do these things and allow them because we&#8217;re used to the world being a mess. No one can imagine saying &#8220;no, no, this is unethical and a bit dumb &#8211; even if profitable/advantageous in the short term &#8211; so we won&#8217;t do it.&#8221; In some countries, there are actually laws which render executives vulnerable to legal action if they don&#8217;t push the law to its limit to make profit. In other words, if you <em>don&#8217;t</em> try to find ways around child labour laws, you could get sued&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of legislating this kind of thing; people ought to do it anyway. However, we&#8217;re into control-freaking our representatives at the moment, and there&#8217;s not a lot of trust, so maybe we need a rule which says: &#8220;Hey, idiot! Not sell munitions to bad guy in exchange for oil! Not outsource labour to child factory! No, no, NO! You do bad thing, you go to prison FOR EVER. Geddit?&#8221;</p>
<p>Revolting though it is to imagine that we need to legislate to prevent our governments from behaving like monsters.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this really just about control freakery of the highest order, and taken to the greatest extremes?

Even for the very noble-minded amongst politicians (who said &#039;tooth fairy&#039;? Quiet in the cheap seats!), democracy is often a means to an ends - I don&#039;t mean that cynically, or to suggest they&#039;re using it for just as long as it takes for them to found the next dictatorship, I mean it literally - so convinced are they of the absolute necessity and righteousness of the changes they wish to make that, should democracy temporarily become an impediment to them, they&#039;re willing to renege on even their own principles. 

Even relative moderates do it - like the Liberal Democrats effectively kiboshing debate over the Lisbon Treaty by calling a three line whip on an absurd amendment calling for a referendum on the whole issue of EU membership instead. Sometimes the questions get so big that those in office (power/authority - what you term the station depends very much on what you think of it) really don&#039;t dare let them be discussed or decided elsewhere. 

Direct democracy becomes ever more appealing to the ordinary person, ever more terrifying for the naturally political. Ultimately - and even without the presence of malign intentions on their part - I think there&#039;s something about those who choose &#039;leadership&#039; or &#039;responsibility&#039;, as they would see it, which means that when it really comes down to it they&#039;re just not willing to let us all choose to do something which they think is dangerous. Control freakery. They&#039;re convinced we&#039;re going to elect Allende otherwise.

The thing about freedom is that you live with the consequences. I think most people are perfectly at ease with that. Politicians, diplomats, Whitehall civil servants and all the rest of it, clearly are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this really just about control freakery of the highest order, and taken to the greatest extremes?</p>
<p>Even for the very noble-minded amongst politicians (who said &#8216;tooth fairy&#8217;? Quiet in the cheap seats!), democracy is often a means to an ends &#8211; I don&#8217;t mean that cynically, or to suggest they&#8217;re using it for just as long as it takes for them to found the next dictatorship, I mean it literally &#8211; so convinced are they of the absolute necessity and righteousness of the changes they wish to make that, should democracy temporarily become an impediment to them, they&#8217;re willing to renege on even their own principles. </p>
<p>Even relative moderates do it &#8211; like the Liberal Democrats effectively kiboshing debate over the Lisbon Treaty by calling a three line whip on an absurd amendment calling for a referendum on the whole issue of EU membership instead. Sometimes the questions get so big that those in office (power/authority &#8211; what you term the station depends very much on what you think of it) really don&#8217;t dare let them be discussed or decided elsewhere. </p>
<p>Direct democracy becomes ever more appealing to the ordinary person, ever more terrifying for the naturally political. Ultimately &#8211; and even without the presence of malign intentions on their part &#8211; I think there&#8217;s something about those who choose &#8216;leadership&#8217; or &#8216;responsibility&#8217;, as they would see it, which means that when it really comes down to it they&#8217;re just not willing to let us all choose to do something which they think is dangerous. Control freakery. They&#8217;re convinced we&#8217;re going to elect Allende otherwise.</p>
<p>The thing about freedom is that you live with the consequences. I think most people are perfectly at ease with that. Politicians, diplomats, Whitehall civil servants and all the rest of it, clearly are not.</p>
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